2 Maple for identification

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  1. steph_rave

    steph_rave New Member

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    Hello if I can have the opinion of the specialists for the identification of 2 maples of my corner tree nursery

    n°1 :
    In a 3 year sowing of triflorum, I have this tree which I have cut short last winter and since I have more identity dubt with the strange characters. Seed come from park with a big collection of maple, only 1 triflorum with 1 griseum near, no maximowiczianum or mandshuricum .
    Wood and leaf with little pubescence, leaf with bugs (4,7 leaflet), red hairless petiole, white spot on bark but vertical crack, vigorous....
    Is it the effect of short cut or maybe an hybrid triflorum x ?

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    n°2 :
    The first one leave on spring are brown green. green bark white white line and without wood.
    Leaves exposed on sun wich spin
    7 leaflet. Very good automn color actually red
    I remember i've sow :
    [FONT=Arial,sans-serif]Acer campbellii flabellatum
    Acer campbellii var sinensis

    Acer japonicum
    Acer pseudo-sieboldianum
    A. pseudosieboldianum subsp. takesimense
    Acer shirasawanum
    Acer shirasawanum 'Palmatifolium'
    Acer sieboldianum
    Acer sinense
    Acer wuyuanense
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    I think flabellatum but the other pictures of flabellatum on the forum are very distinctive. Your flabellatum have more longest leafl
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    flabellatum or hybrid flabellatum x ?
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    thanks for your answer.
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  2. alex66

    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    small maples sometimes are very different to big maples ,for me is Acer triflorum.is also possible that the maple in park is by graft and propagation by seed return the rootstock tree.i have Acer griseum x pseudoplatanus is on natur hydrib ,the pics are in gallery in this forum ..for second maple no idea
     

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