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  1. The Hollyberry Lady

    The Hollyberry Lady New Member

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    Oh Lorax, I don't know what's happening here but I am loving these banana plants!

    I will be ordering new and special varieties over the years - I can see that. For now though I am content to learn how to grow my basjoo's.

    Here is my other one that I up-rooted from the lily garden. Not quite as attractive yet in the square pot beside the cream colored water container pond. It has some rooted succulent cuttings in the pot as well...

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    Succulents are such great accents, even when accenting other succulents!!!
     
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    Yup, I know - I love them.

    My Jade is really taking off, both inside and out. The burro's tail is doing great too. Here's some peeks of my new succulent cuttings, including my own 'string of pearls'...

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    Here are my latest blooming lilies...

    1st ~ 'conneticut king'
    2nd ~ 'acapulco'
    3rd ~ 'cappuccino'
    4th ~ 'la reve'

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    Always beautiful shots!!!
     
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    This small bushy rose of mine, allways changes her colour even after the blooming. We call it "magic rose" but unfortunately I don't get its botanical name. Still I enjoy to follow her.
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    So, the flower itself changes colors after it opens? That's amazing!
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    It has to do with a particular, more or less benign virus that the plant has - as the flower matures, so does the infection, which causes depigmentation in stripes.
     
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    Similar to the E. coli in our intestines? It's still cool even if caused by an infection; I'd infect my roses. :P
     
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    Before I read Lorax's post, I was drooling over those pictures, Tugo. Those are gorgeous!

    Really, Lorax? It's a virus? I thought it was some kind of rose variety from Turkey that I had never seen before! Incredible.

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    Thanks Lorax, this I really wanted to know and study when I have time. Could you pls just open it a little bit. Do you mean this virus injected or applied on the plant or it catch it from the nature?
    I did not see his stocks but the producer I bought it has a web page and he told me on phone that it was because of a special grafting. I also got from him one bush with 3 different reds on it and ok so far I can understand, this is not so unusual and I also can see the graft points.

    Please give me some clues, about how can I search this virus thing from the internet. Thanks.
     
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    That is really interesting! I've also read about plants that get their medicinal properties from pathology (bacteria/virus/whatever infecting it). There was one example I remember reading about in South America where the local curanderos could point out the difference between botanically identical plants one with medicinal properties and one without. It turns out that there was some type of infection that was actually passed through the seeds to the next generations of plants and it was the infection that produced the active medicinal chemicals. How the curanderos were able to tell the plants apart is anyone's guess :)
     
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    love the lillies HBL, my Conneticut just came out yesterday and the Acapulco variety are my current favourites.

    As to the roses does that mean that each year the flower can be a slightly different hue then?
     
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    This rose is with me since abt 3 years. I tried to supervise what happens and when but couldn't.
    Following points are sure;
    - From one root, in the same season, each time a different colour combination can open (this is not so exciting) and the colours may be, pure bordeux, pure yellow, pure cream white and also bordeaux with yellow stripes,bordeaux with white stripes, yellow with bordeaux stripes.
    - Later and some times, white and yellow can change to each other, bordeux, red and brownish colour also may replace each other and plain colours in the second and third days may get another colour next to them.

    The producer said, heat is playing a role in these changes, due to the special way of grafting. Has no scent.
     
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    Tugo,

    Those are great roses very unusual. If you do find out what the variety is please let me know as they would make a nice addition to my flower beds for when the Poenies finish to keep a similar splash of colour going in that spot.

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    From the same producer I have also another rose, leaves inside red and outside white.
    Has been a debate going on if this can be accepted as "Rosa Osira"
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    Nath, the producer also knows not much, therefore he uses the name as "magic rose".
    I did not try but if you think cuttings or seeds may help, pls tell me.

    Last april, after pruning my roses, I put some cuttings into the soil but did not pay any attention, all others did not work but the red/white Osira look cuttings gave me 4 new plants. They even bloomed and the second picture is from the new plant. I believe it is an easy one to grow.
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    In Ecuador, striped roses are produced by grafting infected stock onto healthy roots - and since the results of the virus are more or less random, if you graft a couple of different colours onto the same roots, you can end up with pretty spectacular results, but kind of at random. I've also seen the lady down the street from me pull sap from infected roses in a syringe and inject it into "healthy" ones to see what will happen. The default action of the virus is depigmentation, but the degree of this is what makes the roses interesting. She's got black-red ones with hot-pink stripes now, which I'm kind of coveting.

    Your producer is kind of correct, Tugo - heat does catalyze the viral reaction. Here, it's almost immediate when the buds open, and for you, with your more temperate climate, the change is delayed. Theoretically, you can produce other delayed-striping roses by pollinating a normal rose with pollen from your 'Magic' roses, and planting the resulting hip - the virus can be transmitted in this way as well, with often stunning if unpredictable results.

    The White-Outside, Red-Inside rose is sold in Ecuador as 'Amor Fria' and a version with a darker red center is called 'Pasion de Dios.' They're very popular with the florist trade here. However, of the dual-side roses, my favourite is 'Sangre Escondido' which is peach shading to gold on the outside, and red on the inside. I have no idea how this is done.

    A quick boo through the North American cultivar names gives me 'Topsy Turvy' as the cultivar name for the bicolour white/red.

    EDIT - AHAHA! I have pictures!

    #1 is 'Sangre Escondido' (Hidden Blood)
    #2 is 'Canelos' (Cinnamon Trees)
    #3 is 'Cartas de Amor' (Love Letters, which are HUGE blossoms and very fragrant)
    #4 is 'Morado' (Purple)
    #5 is 'Polvado' (Dusty)
    #6 is 'Dorado' (Golden)
     

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    OMG - someone please pick me up off of the floor because I think I have fainted! Those are beautiful, Lorax! WOW! I had no idea about these bi and tri-colored roses! I love them. Thank you for the fabulous pics.

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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Those are all very common Florist's roses here; I'll have to take a look through some of my other pics, though, because this is only a small sampling. If you're fainting just looking at them, consider that I buy two dozen for $2.50 (ie they're 10 centavos a stem!)
     
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    I would be buying a fresh bouquet every week! Those are just awesome.

    Thanks for bring this topic up, Tugo. I will keep my eyes open for these. They are striking.

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    Roses are just about the coolest flower ever! They can be bushes or vines, any color you want, and are pretty easy to care for. I'm glad I got a few shrubs.

    My largest bush has got multiple buds all of a sudden, and a few are about to bloom! Pics once they do for sure.
     
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    Yes, I too will show pics later (when I get film developed) of a beautiful climbing 8 foot tall red rose bush I had for three years. It bloomed two or three times a season. It was so gorgeous - I miss it.

    My most favorite rose of all time is the peace rose. A lot of roses today, have very little

    fragrance - if any! They must have an amazing scent, for me to buy them.

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    Yes, scent is important, mine have a subtle honey/nectar 'flavor' to them. :)
     
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    I am filing down another nelumbo seed using my nail file. Tugo has got me inspired again! I am not germinating your red or pink seeds yet, Tugo - but a yellow one. The nelumbo outside is growing but I want a second one also. I am sure I can over winter them properly because I even grew one inside in the winter from seed - we'll see...

    I also transplanted my indoor passion flower vine into a larger pot and put it outside with a big trellis for it to climb. My passion flower in the ground is taking off now that I have used some of my spice concoctions to rid a number of chewing buggers! The plant is looking good now. Thanks Joey again, for this terrific and wonderful vine. I am enjoying it so much.

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