Makin' a list and checking it twice...

Discussion in 'Maples' started by paxi, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. katsura

    katsura Active Member 10 Years

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    Sam, yours is a very beautiful Ukigumo variegation.
    My older Ukigumos here in my N California micro
    climate is predominantly white with more fu - like
    brushed on variegation. I looked at Peter Gregory's
    Ukigumo in his new pocket guide and his pic is all
    white mixed with some green, but all this shows the
    futility of hard and fast characterisation with such
    "variegates" in multiple micro-climates.
     
  2. whis4ey

    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    The unpredictable variety in all maples are part of the fascination. I never know what my plants will look like from one season to the next :)
     
  3. Gomero

    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    All those Ukigumos look so different!, yours Whis4ey reminds me of A. Rubescens 'Red Flamingo' ( I am kidding ;-)).
    I agree that with some types of variegation, like Asahi zuru, Oridono nishiki, Butterfly,.... the variegation is quite variable from season to season while the speckled type of variegation seems more stable. Some Ukigumos show a lot of pink and some (like mines) very little, is it location or lineage?, I am inclined to think it is the second.

    Gomero
     
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    Hey again guys --

    Here are the cultivars I'm currently drooling over most on ebay. I hope to buy 4-6 of these in late January or early February. I'm especially focusing on the ones with the asterisks.

    Asahi Zuru*
    Beni Hime
    Coonara Pygmy
    Koto No Ito*
    Fjellheim*
    Aka Shigitatsu Sawa*
    Butterfly*
    Shishi Gashira
    Oridono Nishiki*
    Flamingo
    Goshiki Kotohime
    Toyoma Nishiki
    Peaches and Cream*
    Ojishi*
    Filigree
    Grandma's Ghost

    Any of these I should be sure not to miss? Any I should run away from?
     
  5. paxi

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    Amazondoc,

    curious as to what about these cultivars got them on "the list" for the year. I was planning on doing all of my plantings in fall, but don't know if I can wait that long. I am wondering how much more difficult they are to thrive if planted in spring (st. louis, zone 5b).
     
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    Some got on my list because they were variegated, some because they were small, some just because I thought they were pretty. :-) I didn't put any on the list that I'd have to spend more than $15 for.

    I can't tell you anything about planting in zone 5. In TN, I plant pretty much whenever -- just not in the hottest part of summer, if I can help it!
     
  7. Poetry to Burn

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    Seasons greetings to all.

    'Matsugae' is a charming variegated cultivar.

    Amazon, on your list 'Aka shigitatsu sawa' is a really special plant. But like whis4 says back in post 27 every tree is at times amazing.
     
  8. whis4ey

    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    This is the same plant in August 2007
    The first photograph with so much pink was August 2005
    Maybe the difference is simply down to local climatic conditions in a particular year?
     

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  9. kaydye

    kaydye Active Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    You guys are killing me with your pictures of Ukigumo (as I mentioned earlier). Mine is so green, with just a little spattering of color if I look really close. Why do you suppose that is? Is it a cultural thing, should I buy another one? I would have to mail order again, because I won't be able to find it around here. Any thoughts...?
    Kay
     
  10. whis4ey

    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    How long have you had it? Maybe it is just young?
     
  11. katsura

    katsura Active Member 10 Years

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    sam, post#33 is amazing. beautiful tree as I said. I agree wholeheartedly with you
    that variegates depend upon multiple factors.

    kaydye, do not despair. I have had Ukigumos do just like yours, ie almost no
    variegation and then the next year WOW. In fact in 2007 I had an 8-10 year
    Ukigumo produce no visible variegation that in 2006 was ablaze with white
    speckling. As sam & I have said, variegation is a function of genetics, micro-
    climate, annual variance etc etc.
     

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