Maple cultivar by another name OR (Synonym).#27 #458 #665 #786

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  1. Acerholic

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    Can't get better provenance than that, thankyou Ron.
     
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    And there we go!
     
  3. Acerholic

    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    So after the suggestion from Alain, how about this:- I will then edit this post as and when more are received. And also show #27 'this post' on the thread title. Members can also see the postings with evidence/ provenance on any posting in the thread as they so wish.
    I will monitor this thread daily and keep it up to date.
    As has been pointed out by Ron B, many are down to individual interpretation, so this list must be viewed as such. We have all seen cultivars on the forum that have the same name, but due to being on different continents do appear to be different. So this must always be considered when using this thread.

    Cultivar.....................Synonym 1.................. Similar to..

    'Gwens Rose Delight'......Geisha Gone Wild.......Shirazz......

    'Beni hoshi'......................Ruby Star....................

    'Carmineum'....................Seigen..........................

    'Lileeanes Jewel'..............Extravaganza.............

    'Red Feather'....................Red filligree lace ? ........

    'Little Princess'................Mapi no machi hime....

    'Aconitifolium'.................Maiku Jaku...................

    'Ryusen'............................Ryusei............................

    'Aureum'...........................Kinkakure....................

    'Mejishi'............................Shishigashira..............

    'Koyuki'.............................Little Snowflake.........

    'Okushimo'........................Crispa..........................

    'Sango Kaku'.....................Senkaki.......................

    'Fireglow'...........................Effegi.........................

    'Nigrum' (D).......................Ever Red....................

    'Toyama-nishiki'.............. Goshiki-shidare.......

    'Chiyo-hime'......................Little Princess.........

    'Nishiki-gawa'...................Pine Bark Maple......

    'Emperor 1'........................Red Emperor..........

    'Baldsmith'.........................Watnong................

    'Taylor'................................Ijoshi.....................

    'Linearilobum'...................Scolopendrifolium...

    'Hagoromo'.........................Sessilifolium........

    'Momenshide'.....................Yushide.....................

    'Silhouette'.........................Tsukasa Silhouette...

    'Atrolineare' ......................Filiferum Purpureum..

    'Dissectum Variegatum'....Frederici Guglielmi....

    'Little Princess'..................Chiyo-hime....Murasaki Kiyohime? ....................................................................Mapi no machi hime?

    'Fire Glow'............................Effigy........................

    'Ryu sei'............Millennium green............Ryusen......

    'Baton Rouge'.......................... ..................Red Stick.....

    'Shigarami'............................. ................... Saku..........

    'Aoyagi'.................................... .................'Shidiva gold'..

    'Seiryu'.................................... .................Green Dragon..

    'ka Shigitatsu Sawa............ ..............Beni Shigitatsu sawa..
    .............................................................Samurai Shigitatsu Sawa..

    'Yuki gumo'..................Ukigumo.........

    'Shishigashira'....................... ................ Crispifolium....

    'Zig Zag'.........................Little Gem..............

    'Yukure'.........................Yugure...................

    'Yukon'...........................Aoyagi....................

    'Yu jishi'.........................O jishi....................

    'Yorimiya'.......................Yoimiya.................

    'Yog saku'.......................Hogyoku................

    'Yoen'..............................Kagero...................

    'Yezo nishiki'................Ezo nishiki............

    'Yellow Moon'...............Aureum.................

    'Momoiro Koyasan'....... ........................... Momoiro-koya-san...

    'Yatsubusa sekka'...........Sekka yatsubusa.....

    'Yatsubusa hikasa yama'...Shin hikasa.........

    'Yamato nishiki'..............Toyama nishiki......

    'Yamoto koto ito'.............Yamoto koto-no-ito....

    'Yamamoto nishiki'.........Nishiki gasane..........

    'Yama hime'.....................Mon zukushi.............

    'Yakushima nishiki'.......Shimauri kaede........

    'Wolff's'............................Wolff's Broom..........

    'Will D'.............................Will's Devine...........

    'Whitney Broom '...........Whitney Red...........

    'Wattez'..........................Atropurpureum Wattez...

    'Waka momiji Variegated'...Waka momiji......

    'Viridis Olandese'.............Green Globe.............

    'Viridis Green Globe'........Green Globe............

    'Viride'..............................Dissectum................

    'Veitchii'...........................Aconitifolium..........

    'V. Corbin'.........................Midori-no-teiboku...

    'Uncle Red'........................Bump........................

    'Elmwood'........................W. Devine................

    'Ukon nishiki'.................Aoyagi......................

    'Ukon'...............................Aoyagi.....................

    'Ukigomo kawariba'.......Uki gumo kawariba..

    'Ueno yama'.....................Ueno homare..........

    'Ueno-no-homare'...........Ueno homare...........

    'Tura-no-mai'..................Tsuru-no-mai..........

    'Tsuma jiro'.....................Tsumma jio..............

    'Tsuma gari'....................Tsuma gaki..............

    'Tsukumo'........................Tsukomo..................

    'Tsuki Kagi nishiki'........Oitaya meigetsu atozae...

    'Tsukasa hime yatsubusa'...Kanto hime yatsubusa..

    'Twombleys Red Sentinel'... Tromley's Red Sentinel...

    'Traywick'..........................Pam Tramwick.......

    'Toyo nishiki'....................Toyama nishiki......

    'Azuma Murasaki'...........Toshi........................

    'Twombley's Red Sentinel'...Tombley's Red Sentinel..

    'Thunbergii'.....................A.palmatum ssp. palmatum...

    'Threadleaf'.......................Dissectum..................

    'The Olsen's Strawberry Frost'... Olsen's Frosted Strawberry..

    'Teyono hoshi'..................Tennyo-no-hoshi.......

    'Teriba'..............................Teri ha........................

    'Tentou'.............................Tendo..........................

    'Tatsuta kaede'.................Tatsuta gawa.............

    'Tatsu gashira'.................Ryuto..........................

    'Tata nishiki'...................Akaji nishiki.............

    'Taro hiyama'..................Taro yama.................

    'Tanyo-no-hoshi'.............Tennyo-no-hoshi......

    'Akaji nishiki'..................Tanba seigai

    'Fuji-no-takane'...............Takane shidare.......

    'Takamoda yama'.............Taka isago..............?

    'Daimyo'............................Taimin....................

    'O Sakazuki'......................Taihai.....................

    'O sakazuki akame'..........Syuzen..................

    'Shojo'.................................Syojo syowa.........

    'Shojo shidare'..................Syojo shidare........

    'Kagiri'...............................Syojo......................

    'Shojo nomura'..................Syoiou nomura....

    'Kagiri'...............................Syoiou...................

    'Suru sumi'........................Suru zume..........

    'Attraction'........................Superbum...........

    'Aureum' (P)......................Sunrise................

    'Sumi shidare'..................Sumieda shidare..

    'Flavescens'.......................Sulphureum.......

    'Shigitatsu Sawa'..............Striatum..............

    'Hagoromo'........................Stalkless..............

    'Corallinum'......................Spring Fire.........

    'Ornatum'..........................Spiderleaf.............

    'Toyama nishiki'...............Sotoyama nishiki..

    'Sotoyama'..........................Toyama................

    'Shojo nomura '.................Sioiou nomura.......

    'Ezo nishiki'.......................Sintsuzure nishiki..

    'Shinobuga oka'.................Sinobuga oka........

    'Shin hikasa'......................Sin hikasa.............

    'Filigree'.............................Silver Lace.............

    'Seiren ji gawa'..................Shoren ji gawa......

    'Shoku-no-nishiki '?.........Shokune nishiki....

    'Kagiri'................................Shojo.......................

    'Mikawa yatsabusa'..........Shishi yatsubusa...

    'Shin Chishio'....................Shishio Improved..

    'Chishio'.............................Shishio...................

    'Shishio hime'...................Shishi hime...........

    'Shiraname'.......................Shiranami..............

    'Shinonome'?.....................Shioname...............

    'Shin deshojo'.....................Shinji shojo...........

    'Shin deshojo'.....................Shinideshiojo........

    'Shin hikasa'.......................Shin hikasa yama..

    'Shin deshojo'.....................Shin deshiojo........

    'Aoba nishiki'.....................Shin aotya nishiki..

    'Tsukushi gata'..................Shikushi gata........

    'Shigure zome'...................Shikure zome.......

    'Tsukushi gata'..................Shikishigata..........

    'Shigure zome'...................Shigure zono........

    'Shigitatsu Sawa'...............Shigitatsu.............

    'Shigure yama'...................Shigare yama......

    'Shigure yama'...................Shigare jama.......

    'Shidava Gold'....................Shidaba Gold........

    'Shime-no-uchi'..................Shichigosan........

    'Sherwood Flame'..............Shearwater Flame..

    'Sharp's Pygmy'.................Sharp's Dwarf......

    'Koshimino'........................Sessilifolium Tall..

    'Hazeriono'.........................Sessilifolium Hazeriono..

    'Hagoromo'........................Sessilifolium Dwarf..

    'Hagoromo'.........................Seryo....................

    'Sanguineum'.....................Septemlobum Sanguinum...

    'Rubrum'.............................Septemlobum Rubrum....

    'Hessei'.................................Septemlobum Purpureum..

    'O sakazuki'.........................Septemlobum Osakazuki...

    'Hessei'.................................Septemlobum Elegans Purpureum..

    'Elegans'..............................Septemlobum Elegans........

    'Heptalobum'......................Septemlobum......................

    'Eddisbury'..........................Senkaki Eddisbury.............

    'Sango kaku'........................Senkaki...............................

    'Semi-no-hane'....................Semi-no-ha.........................

    'Semi-no-hane'....................Semi-no-hane....................

    'Inaba shidare'.....................Select Red...........................

    'Kyoryu'................................Sekka momiji...................

    'Seigen'..................................Seikaiha.............................

    'Aoba nishiki'.......................Seika nishiki.....................

    'Seigen'.................................Seika ha.............................

    'Ao seigen'............................Seigen Aureum.................

    'Akaji nishiki'......................Seigaiha.............................

    'Akaji nishiki'......................Seigai..................................

    'Aoba nishiki'......................Seicha nishiki...................

    'Aoba nishiki'......................Seicha.................................

    'Shinobuga oka'..................Scolopendrifolium Viride..

    'Atrolineare'........................Scolopendrifolium Rubrum..

    'Atrolineare'........................Scolopendrifolium Purpureum..

    'Shinobuga oka'...................Scolopendrifolium...........

    'Red Cloud'............................Scoloparent.......................

    'Shime-no-uchi'...................Schime-no-uchi................

    'Shichihenge'.......................Schichihenge....................

    'Shime-no-uchi'...................Schichigosa.......................

    'Satsuki Beni'........................Satzuki beni.....................

    'Akaji nishiki'.......................Sanguineum Seigai.........

    'Chishio'................................Sanguineum Chishio......

    'Fjellheim'............................Sango Kaku Dwarf..........

    'Beni Shigitatsu sawa'.........Samurai.........................

    'Beni Shigitatsu sawa'.........Samari..........................

    'Shigarami'...........................Saku................................

    'Nishiki gasane'..................Sainan in beni...............

    'Saho yatsubusa'.................Saho yatsufusa..............

    'Saho sunago'......................Saho tsunago.................

    'Saho kinran'.......................Saho kiran.....................

    'Nishiki gasane '.................Sagara nishiki...............

    'Ryu sei'................................Ryûsen...........................

    'Miyabi nishiki '..................Ryûmon nishiki...........

    'Ryôzen'................................Ryoshoin?.....................

    'Ryusei' ?..............................Ryiusen.........................

    'Rugose'................................Rugosa..........................

    'Sanguineum'......................Rubrolatifolium.........

    'Wolff's Broom'...................R.P.Wolff.....................

    'Royle'...................................Royale.........................

    'Arakawa'.............................Rough Bark Maple....

    'Versicolor'...........................Roseum......................

    'Versicolor'...........................Roseoversicolor.......

    'Versicolor'...........................Roseovariegatum....

    'Versicolor'...........................Roseomaculatum....

    'Kagiri'..................................Roseotricolor...........

    'Kagiri'..................................Rosamarginalis.......

    'Dissectum Variegatum'......Roseopictum............

    'Novum'.................................Roscoe Red...............

    'Rokugatsu en nishiki'........Rokugatsu sono nishiki..

    'Shishigashira'......................Ribesifolium..........

    'Shishigashira'......................Ribescifolium........

    'Shigitatsu Sawa'..................Reticulatum..........

    'Hupp's Red Willow'............Red Widow............

    'Beni kumo-no-su'................Red Spyder............

    'Beni kumo-no-su'................Red Spider Web....

    'Inaba shidare'......................Red Select.............

    'Red Filigree Lace'................Red Lace...............

    'Red Dawn' A.shiras .............Red Dawn............

    'Purpureum'.........................Purpureum Superbum..

    'Atrolineare'.........................Purpureum Angustilobum..

    'Dissectum Variegatum'......Polychromum.....

    'Elegans'...............................Pinnatum.............

    'f. dissectum'.............................Pinnatifidum........

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    Kagiri'.......................................Pinkedge...............

    'Nishiki-gawa '.....................Pine Bark Maple..

    'Hino tori nishiki'................Phoenix Variegated..

    'Omure yama'.......................Pendulum omureyama..

    'Dissectum Nigrum'............Pendulum Nigrum...

    'Matsukaze'..........................Pendulum matsukaze..

    'Inazuma'.............................Pendulum inazuma...

    'Hatsu shigure'....................Pendulum hatsu shigure..

    'Dissectum Superbum'........Pendulum Atropurpureum Superbum..

    'Atrolineare'..........................Pendulum Atropurpureum..

    'Atrolineare'..........................Pendulum Angustifolium Atropurpureum..

    Acer rufinerve Albolimbatum....Acer rufinerve Hatsujuki..

    'Pendulum Julian'.................Pendula Julian........

    'Washi-no-o'..........................Paucum....................

    'Aconitifolium'......................Parsonii...................

    'Aconitifolium'......................Palmatifidum.........

    'Otome zakura'......................Otome zakure........

    'Oshu shidare'.......................Ō syu shidare.........

    'Oshu shidare'.......................Ō siu shidare.........

    Oshu shidare'........................Oshiu shidare......

    'Oshu beni'............................Ō syu beni..............

    'Oshu beni'............................Oshyu beni............

    'Oshu beni'.............................Oshiu beni...........

    'Ice dragon'................. ......................Jack Frost Collection

    'Murakumo'...........................Ō shidare...............

    'O sakazuki '...........................Ō sakazuki midorime....

    'Oridono nishiki'....................Orono nishiki.......

    'Dissectum Variegatum'........Ornatum Variegatum....

    'Ornatum'................................Ornatum Purpureum....

    'Oridono nishiki'....................Orido nishiki........

    'Oridono nishiki'....................Oridomo nishiki...

    'Wou nishiki'..........................Ō nishiki...............

    'Omure yama'.........................Omara yama........

    'Okushimo'..............................Okustanea............

    'Okina'......................................Okima..................

    'Okukuji nishiki'....................Okikoji nishiki...

    'Taiyu'.......................................Ō isami'..............

    'Ogura yama'............................Ogueyama.........

    'Kakure gasa'............................Ōgon itaya........

    'Aureum' shira..........................Ōgon itaya........

    'Ōgon sarasa'.............................Ōgona sarasa....

    'Ogi nagashi'.............................Ogi-no-nagare...

    'Ogi nagashi'..............................Ogi nagare........

    'Saoshika'...................................Ogashika...........

    'O taki'........................................O daki................

    'Ao kanzashi'.............................Oa hanzashi.....

    'Nyaku ôji '................................Nyaku ouji........

    'Nusatori yama' A.buerg ..........Nusatori yama..

    'Sakura hime'............................Nukata okime...

    'Nomura'....................................Noumura.........

    'Wou nishiki'.............................Nou nishiki....

    'Ko murasaki'............................Noshi...............

    'Green Thumb'..........................North Carolina Red..

    'Shôjô shidare'..........................Nomura shidare...

    'Nomura kôyô'..........................Nomura ôyô'......

    'Nomura kôyô'..........................Nomura ôjô.......

    'Musashino'..............................Nomura kaede...

    'Musashino'..............................Nomura..............

    'Arakawa momiji'.....................Nishiki sho momiji..

    'Arakawa'..................................Nishiki sho.........

    'Schichihenge'..........................Nikkô shichihenge..

    'Nihon beni' ?...........................Niho beni...........

    'Dissectum Nigrum'................Nigrum Dissectum..

    'North Carolina Red'................N.C.Red...............

    'Naruo nishiki'.........................Narvo nishiki....

    'Sode-no-uchi'...........................Nankin...............

    'Matsuyoi'.................................Myoi..................

    'Masu murasaki'......................Musa murasaki..

    'Masu kagami'..........................Musa kagami.....

    'Murasaki taka'?......................Murasaki take...

    'Murasaki hime'......................Murasaka hime...

    'Murakumo'.............................Mura kuma.........

    'Murakumo'.............................Murakama..........

    'Murakumo'.............................Muragumo..........

    'Murakumo'.............................Muraguma..........

    'Mr Sun' shira...............................Mr Sun (P)............

    'Beni yatsubusa'.......................Môsen...................

    'Mizuho beni'...........................Mitsuho beni......

    'Shishigashira'.........................Minus..................

    'Mino kasa'?..............................Mino gasa...........

    'Mimuro yama'?.......................Mimuru yama..

    'Milton Park Broom'................Milton Park.......

    'Hime shojo'..............................Millenium Red..

     
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    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    Little Princess / Mapi no machi hime
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    These are all separate aspects with the first and third names perhaps varying internationally, as has been the case with hybrid roses for instance:

    Patented as cultivar 'Gwen's Rose Delight' in US

    'Geisha Gone Wild' is an independent occurrence of a similar mutation on 'Geisha' and therefore definitely a different clone. So then it becomes a matter of interpretation as to whether or not it should be considered a different or the same cultivar. I personally think it is preferable that the naming indicate the differing origins

    SHIRAZZ is a trade name used to sell 'Gwen's Rose Delight' and not therefore presented in single quotes as 'Shirazz', in the manner of a cultivar name
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Understood thankyou Ron. I will amend the posting to show this.
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    After reading Ron B posting #30, it is important that we all realise that sometimes another name or indeed Synonym is down to interpretation. So I will show this on #27.
     
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    I will amend the posting to show this

    Just so you don't amend any planting holes as well.
     
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  9. Acirón

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    Hi!

    Acer japonicum 'Aconitifolium' / 'Maiku Jaku'
    Acer palmatum 'Ryusen' / 'Ryusei'
    Acer shirasawanum 'Aureum' / 'Kinkakure'

    I think that these cultivars are the same.

    Kind regards!
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Lol, now that's another hole we need not go down......
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Thanks Alain.
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Thankyou P.
     
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    MapleMO Contributor 10 Years

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    Good morning!

    Mejishi - Shishigashira
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Good morning M. Thankyou.
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Hers another from my collection to add to the list .Koyuki = Little Snowflake.
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    To keep the log going, here is another in my collection, Okushimo = Crispa= Cripsii ?
     
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    Good morning!

    Yes, 'Okushimo' / 'Crispa' / 'Crispii' are the same.

    Thank you!
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Thanks for the confirmation P. All good info.
     
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    Hi,
    I would be interested if anyone know something about 'cripsii' as I have one and this week I saw at least 20 of them beeing for sale on a nursery.
    I noticied they are mainly sold in France/Belgium.
    (Not talking about 'Okushimo' which i have also and is totally different).
    They are close to kotohime but way more compact and the leaves emerge almost green and some of them turn into a pale yellow at the top when they harden in late spring or make a second flush.

    I know @AlainK has this cultivar aswell.

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    It is still a mystery for me.
    I wonder if it could be somehow related to 'hupp's dwarf'.
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Just had another from a Renowned Contributor, Sango Kaku and Senkaki.

    It will be added.
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Good afternoon I, after your comment I have placed a ? against Crippsii on the Synonym 2 list. This is excellent and what the thread is all about.
     
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    Good afternoon D, thank you.
    I hope one day someone will come with an answer about his provenance and who did select it...until then I will think it was mislabelled at some point.
     
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    Sorry to say D @Acerholic , I think you miswrited 'Sango kaku'.
     
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    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Whoops, thankyou I. Serves me right for typing on my tablet in the bright sun in the garden ,lol.
     
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    Definatly I, that's the whole point about this thread. To give people the opportunity to look again and investigate a little further when considering a purchase.
     

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