Ornamental Cherries at UBCBG 2023

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  1. wcutler

    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    First posting here this year! I'm finding the comparison to last year interesting.

    @tknd posted 'Umineko' with fading flowers on April 7. They seemed just a bit past that stage yesterday, April 20.
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    'Mikuruma-gaeshi' had a lot of flowers open on that date last year. Yesterday there were just a few flowers open, made it easier to appreciate the bark.
    Mikuruma-gaeshi_UBCBG_Cutler_20230420_151200.jpg Mikuruma-gaeshi_UBCBG_Cutler_20230420_151106.jpg

    'Pandora' were appropriately finished, with just a few flowers remaining, same story about the bark.
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    It was pouring rain and I didn't walk over to see what was happening with the rest.
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    I'm missing the Prunus hybrid (P. serrula x P. sargentii 'Sir Edwin Muller') that used to be along the exit. Did it die over the winter, or has it been moved?
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    I think that one died / was showing signs of severe disease.
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Thank you for the news, which I'm sorry to hear. I liked that tree a lot and was expecting that it would do well. Maybe it was missing its friends from the end of the north garden.
     
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    Dropped by UBC earlier.

    The Shirotae near Regent College were not as full as I hoped (for a pure white picture) but still nice.

    At UBC Botanical Garden, half the Taihaku are ready.
    Taihaku_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8167.JPG Taihaku_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8169.JPG Taihaku_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8170.JPG
    Ojochin is looking good.
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    Ito-kukuri and mikuruma-gaeshi are not on the map so I'll add them in shortly in case we want them on the map.
    Ito-kukuri_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8182.JPG MikurumaGaeshi_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8171.JPG MikurumaGaeshi_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8172.JPG
    Surugadai-nioi, umineko, whitcomb, etc. have finished.
     
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    Dropped by UBC earlier.

    The Shirotae near Regent College were not as full as I hoped (for a pure white picture) but still nice.

    At UBC Botanical Garden, half the Taihaku are ready.
    Taihaku_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8167.JPG Taihaku_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8169.JPG Taihaku_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8170.JPG
    Ojochin is looking good.
    Ojochin_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8177.JPG Ojochin_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8180.JPG
    The plants labelled as Ito-kukuri and mikuruma-gaeshi are not on the map so I'll add them in shortly in case we want them on the map.
    Ito-kukuri_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8182.JPG MikurumaGaeshi_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8171.JPG MikurumaGaeshi_UBCBotanicalGarden_Yong_20230425_IMG_8172.JPG
    Surugadai-nioi, umineko, whitcomb, etc. have mostly finished.
     
  6. tknd

    tknd Active Member VCBF Cherry Scout

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    I also visited the Botanical Garden parking lot 3 days ago, on a cold and rainy day.

    'Tai-haku', 'Ojochin' and 'Mikurua-gaeshi' look much fuller in Yong's photos from today.

    'Tai-haku'
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    'Ojochin'
    20230423_Ojochin_UBCBG Parking_Taka 2.jpg 20230423_Ojochin_UBCBG Parking_Taka 4.jpg

    'Mikuruma-gaeshi'
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    'Ichiyo' is getting ready to bloom.
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    'Umineko' trees still had lots of flowers.
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    The last of the 'Pandora', 'Surugadai-nioi', 'Whitcomb' and 'Accolade' blossoms were still hanging on.

    'Pandora'
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    'Surugadai-nioi'
    I couldn't smell any fragrance despite the name. Maybe because it's past peak?
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    'Whitcomb'
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    'Accolade'
    I found some completely intact blossoms on the ground. I picked a white-ish one up. When I put it in water about an hour later, I noticed the petals were pink. Then after 1/2 hour when I gently touched it, all the petals came apart. It was like a fast-forward version of a blossom's life.
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    Sorry for some out-of-focus photos.
     
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    I also visited the Botanical Garden parking lot 3 days ago, on a cold and rainy day.

    'Tai-haku', 'Ojochin' and 'Mikurua-gaeshi' look much fuller in Yong's photos from today.

    'Tai-haku'
    20230423_Tai-haku_UBCBG Parking_Taka 2.jpg

    'Ojochin'
    20230423_Ojochin_UBCBG Parking_Taka 2.jpg 20230423_Ojochin_UBCBG Parking_Taka 4.jpg

    'Mikuruma-gaeshi'
    20230423_Mikuruma-gaeshi_UBCBG Parking_Taka 2.jpg 20230423_Mikuruma-gaeshi_UBCBG Parking_Taka 4.jpg

    'Ichiyo' is getting ready to bloom.
    20230423_Ichiyo_UBCBG_Taka 1.jpg 20230423_Ichiyo_UBCBG_Taka 3.jpg

    'Umineko' trees still had lots of flowers.
    20230423_Umineko_UBCBG Parking_Taka 2.jpg 20230423_Umineko_UBCBG Parking_Taka 5.jpg


    The last of the 'Pandora', 'Surugadai-nioi', 'Whitcomb' and 'Accolade' blossoms were still hanging on.

    'Pandora'
    20230423_Pandora_UBCBG Parking_Taka 5.jpg 20230423_Pandora_UBCBG Parking_Taka 4.jpg

    'Surugadai-nioi'
    I couldn't smell any fragrance despite the name. Maybe because it's past peak?
    20230423_Surugadai-nioi_UBCBG Parking_Taka 2.jpg 20230423_Surugadai-nioi_UBCBG Parking_Taka 3.jpg

    'Whitcomb'
    20230423_Whitcomb_UBCBG Parking_Taka 1.jpg 20230423_Whitcomb_UBCBG Parking_Taka 2.jpg

    'Accolade'
    I found some completely intact blossoms on the ground. I picked a white-ish one up. When I put it in water about an hour later, I noticed the petals were pink. Then after 1/2 hour when I gently touched it, all the petals came apart. It was like a fast-forward version of a blossom's life.
    20230423_Accolade_UBCBG Parking_Taka 1.jpg 20230423_Accolade_UBCBG Parking_Taka 5.jpg
    20230423_Accolade_UBCBG Parking_Taka 8.jpg 20230423_Accolade_UBCBG Parking_Taka 9.jpg

    Sorry for some out-of-focus photos.
     
  8. tknd

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    The flowers and buds of 'Ito-kukuri' at the Botanical Garden parking lot look very similar to 'Ojochin' and I couldn't tell the difference. I also found other photos of 'Ito-kukuri' blossoms clearly showing double flowers and ragged edges, but these aren't. (See posts #24, #61 in the UBC Neighbourhood Blog)

    The tree in the foreground is 'Ojochin' and the other is labeled 'Ito-kukuri'.
    20230423_Ojochin_UBCBG Parking_Taka .jpg

    Unfortunately, I couldn't get clear photos.
    'Ito-kukuri'
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    'Ojochin'
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    The flowers and buds of 'Ito-kukuri' at the Botanical Garden parking lot look very similar to 'Ojochin' and I couldn't tell the difference. I also found other photos of 'Ito-kukuri' blossoms clearly showing double flowers and ragged edges, but these aren't. (See posts #24, #61)

    The tree in the foreground is 'Ojochin' and the other is labeled 'Ito-kukuri'.
    20230423_Ojochin_UBCBG Parking_Taka .jpg

    Unfortunately, I couldn't get clear photos.
    'Ito-kukuri'
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    'Ojochin'
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    You're not alone! Was also wondering why the Ito-kukuri labelled plant looked like Ojochin instead of the Ito-kukuri found at other places such as Lakewood and 6th.
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Here's another comparison posting of those two. First the tree trees, the one marked 'Ito-kukuri' on the left. Second photo is just the two labeled 'Ojochin'.
    Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145042.jpg Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145148.jpg

    These photos are the tree on the right:
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    And the other tree in the second photo in this posting. Sepals aren't featured in these, but they're visible.
    Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145346.jpg Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145357.jpg Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145410.jpg

    Here are photos from the tree labelled 'Ito-kukuri', definitely showing leaves missing the acuminate tips.
    Ito-kukuri-labelled_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_150121.jpg Ito-kukuri-labelled_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_150134.jpg Ito-kukuri-labelled_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_150149.jpg Ito-kukuri-labelled_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_150218.jpg
    Edited - found a few more photos.
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    'Ukon' are open around town, but they are just starting to open here.
    Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145513.jpg Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145532.jpg Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145553.jpg Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145601.jpg

    The tree propagated from the large one we're calling 'Gyoiko' in Stanley Park, with the 'Kizakura' label here, has about as many open flowers as the 'Ukon', but the unopened buds are not quite as far advanced. I neglected to take a habit photo.
    Gyoiko-Kizakura-label_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145736.jpg Gyoiko-Kizakura-label_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145850.jpg Gyoiko-Kizakura-label_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145914.jpg Gyoiko-Kizakura-label_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145927.jpg Gyoiko-Kizakura-label_UBCBG_Cutler_20230428_145938.jpg
     
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    Here are more photos of the tree labelled 'Ito-kukuri', focusing on any signs of double flowers, and on stipules.
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    And the nearer 'Ojochin'.
    Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155033.jpg Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155058.jpg Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155132.jpg Ojochin_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155136.jpg
     
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    Four days later and the 'Ukon' is entirely open.
    Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155235.jpg Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155248.jpg Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155255.jpg Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155316.jpg Ukon_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155337.jpg

    The 'Gyoiko' with the 'Kizakura' label has more open flowers, but not many. From any distance, it appears to have no flowers, but they're getting lost in the leaves because there are so few, not because the colour fits in. I took so many photos to make the point that it's not just a few that have the green outer petals - just about all the flowers do. There are more open flowers on the north side of the tree, something I found to be the case for the 'Ito-kukuri' at Cecil Green Park too.
    Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155515.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155634.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155705.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155743.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155756.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155841.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155903.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155932.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155954.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_155959.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_160024.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_160035.jpg Gyoiko_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_160141.jpg

    Though these don't get lost among the leaves because of the colour in real life, they do in the photos, so all the ones above have been brightened with editing a very little bit. Here is one that I left unedited.
    Gyoiko not edited_UBCBG_Cutler_20230502_160055.jpg
     
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    October 3 - I'd heard of Douglas Justice's plan to eventually replace the row of grafted 'Tai-haku' trees outside the gate along Marine Drive with trees grown on their own roots. Today was the start of the first visible phase - every second tree has been cut down. The plan is to situate the new trees, which are ready to go, closer to the road.
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