Random city maple ID

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  1. kines

    kines Active Member

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    What Japanese maple has a tight dense growth habit and is somewhat columnar, with a typical palmatum leaf? This business has several of them planted around the grounds, and I'm surprised that I'm at a loss for a guess as to what cultivar they might be. Tsukasa silhouette comes to mind but that seems pretty esoteric. Especially to have several of them of this size.
     

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  2. alex66

    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    I presume is a common Acer palmatum subsp.palmatum
    Not a cultivar
     
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    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    That's also what I guess, but maples can sometimes look all the same but different so it's hard to be sure.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    If there are several of them planted, and they are all the same shape, then it'll be a cultivar. Seedling-grown trees are diverse in shape, each one different to others.
     
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    I just rode by there to check and yup, they have graft unions at the base. Cultivars indeed.
     
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    maf Generous Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    Internodes look to be pretty short, with compact habit that further indicates a selected form/cultivar. Maybe check out the colour next spring, any identifying features more likely to be apparent at that time of year?
     
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    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    dichotomous
    keys are :bark,flowers,form of the leaves ,fruits, habitat,autumn colors,Spring colors,trunk.
    Is also possible graft Acer palmatum on the rootstock of the another species of section "palmata" like for exampleAcer circinatum .
     
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    And the autumn color is... dark red
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Hope they're going to remove those hideous wires soon, to give the trees space to grow!
     
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    I'm sure the people on the receiving end of the power won't mind as long as their view is improved. :)
     
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    maf Generous Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    Clearly they deliberately planted a short internode cultivar because it is under the wires.

    I guess the description said maximum height 10-12 feet, but what they didn't know at the time was it was grafted on a strong growing rootstock and will exceed that.
     
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    Ha, this is nothing. If this photo elicits comments about trees and power lines, you would be aghast during a stroll in my neighborhood. There appears to be almost zero consideration given to conflict between trees and power lines.
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    OK, I'll bite. Here's one, not at all rare, from Vancouver, BC, what should be a nice 'Akebono' cherry tree.
    20190331_59thPrinceEdward_Akebono_Cutler_164553.jpg
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    I've never understood this fetish that the US (and Canada?) have with masses of overhead wires making everywhere look hideous and ruining tree-growing prospects. Almost all of ours are underground, suburban streets generally have few or no wires. Here's a typical suburban street randomly chosen a few km from where I live, on street view. And another example here - you do see odd overhead wires, but not many and often far between. And it's the same pretty much throughout Europe. Random examples from Denmark, Germany, Sweden (one wire!), Ireland, France (but also a worse French example), Bulgaria (a few, but not hordes!), Italy, . . . I could go on! Poland and Slovakia look a bit worse, but still nothing like Kines's pics.

    Further afield, well, Bangkok in Thailand looks awful! And it's certainly not all bad in the US, as this randomly selected street in St. Louis MO, shows.
     
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    And yet, of all the examples (which I did enjoy seeing), only Bulgaria showed a tree-lined street, but no verge to speak of. Most Vancouver streets city-wide have a nice verge on both sides, maybe a meter or more wide, lined with trees. Here is a random Vancouver city location.
    The wires are running down the lanes in back of the houses a block away. I don't feel that Vancouver looks comparatively hideous, but there could be a lot better co-ordination between the parks people and the city engineers, to keep the trees from being so mistreated.
     
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    Many new development's from the early 1980's and onward all have underground wiring in Canada.
    Lets not forget the geographical size of Canada compared to the whole of Europe. The costs to re & re existing overhead wiring are just not possible with our relatively small population.
    Our province of BC for example, is 4 times the size of Great Britain. And our population of 4.5 million ( BC), compare to over 67 million in GB really does limit our revenue for capital projects like overhead wire upgrades.
     
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